their socialization experience
Published on October 6, 2004 By LeapingLizard In Misc
For the last two weeks before school started this fall, I was sent as a student teacher to an elementary school. I didn't have a choice which school or grade I would be assigned to. It was luck of the draw. I ended up in a fifth grade class room. I had two weeks alone with the techer before the students would arrive. In those two weeks, I saw only the tip of what was to come.

In the first half hour, I found out that my lead teacher is ex-military. She is a republican...far right Christain Fundamentalist. There are 40 American flags or American flag paraphenelia around the room. I did actually count them and then I tried to ignore them and any other pro-conservative-American-government propaganda I saw, including 8x10 photos and bumper sticker for the Bush campaign and a tiny thumnail photo of Kerry.

Then, the students came. One parent transfered their child to another school on account of the room being too politically one sided. The teacher defended herself against the principal's questioning by pointing to a poster of Bobby Kennedy, and to a flag with Bob Marley's face on it that says Freedom across the bottom.

The first two days were spent going over the rules, teaching them, reinterating them, learning the pledge of allegiance, and drawing American flags. The weekend homework was a packet of sheets on the American government. Never mind reading, writing, creative thought processes, or community building in the classroom. Never mind that 1/3 of the class speaks English as a second language. Never mind that 5 of the students don't speak English well enough to read/write at a 2nd grade level. As long as they know the rules for the room and all about the government, they'll be fine. She made sure to tell them that the government isn't perfect, though. Following, she promted with the question, "How can you make a change if you don't like the way things the government is doing?" She gave them about 2 seconds to think, and then said, "You vote." That's it. We can all see that that worked really well in 2000.

The following two weeks were filled with misery. She'd tell them to be prepared, and then scold them for doing something that she didn't tell them to, or having work out that she didn't specifically ask them to get out. She filled out problem reports that are kept online through students' academic careers that stated students were having academic problems. When she filled in the area of the specific concern, she put 'too chatty'. When she filled in the area for student strengths, she put 'sweet, comliant'

Compliant?? Since when is that an academic strength?

Other things she did that I saw that I couldn't believe:
-saying a student is special education when a student is reading a few grades behind because english is their second language
-grading unfinished standardized style tests that were untimed like they were finished and basing decisions about curriculum on the scores
-ignoring that three students said they can't see the board because they need glasses
-isolating a student at the back of the room for weeks
-using an accent when talking about latino/latina food and culture
-saying to me personally that the US could win the war by dropping pork over iraq to feed the people so they would starve to death
-for questions more than one answer, accepting answers from students she likes and telling students that she doesn't like they're answers are wrong
(example: telling one child she doesn't like that magic isn't involved in fantasy stories,the same girl that she told me has nothing in her head)
-telling a student if he doesn't stop twirling his hair (because it annoys her) that she would tell his dad to shave his head
-telling a student that if he didn't stop fiddling his pencil that she would duct tape his hands to the floor
-kids cannot use the bathroom, get a drink, or sharpen pencils unless the class is on break (2 times daily + lunch)
(this means if their pencil breaks, they can't do any more work. Then she yells at them for not having it done.)
-taking away a month of recess for one student who forgot to come inside to fininsh work at recess one day
-telling them they are never allowed to talk without raising their hands, then getting frustrated with them when no one chimes into group discussions
(they never know when she is asking a group question, or when she wants them to raise their hands)
-putting children in the corner for more that ten minutes at a time
(sometimes, she has all three corners full and multiplt people on the floor with clipboards)
-yelling at a student because they didn't know their father's phone number
(she doesn't even know the child's parents are divorced and the child lives with her mother and step-father, let alone what the situation is between
the childs mother and father after the divorce)
-upon finding out that one of her muslim students would not be allowed to enter a christain church sanctuary during a practice evacutaion, she
commented sarcastically to me that 'we wouldn't want her to turn into a frog or anything'

I could go on and on, but I'm tiring myself out

My point is that these kids are being socialized to be 'yes' people, do whatever authority tells them to without questioning (well, they could vote...haha), and pledge their allegiance to a country that won't take care of most of them.

I didn't even get started on the sexual socialization taking place.

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on Oct 06, 2004
I'm a first year teacher...and I've got first grade. I did a practicum in first grade for five weeks when I student taught almost two years ago. Do I feel unprepared...COMPLETELY.

It's funny that you write this, because, my practicum cooperating teacher was a weirdo, too. She didn't have American crap plastered all over, but she did have some very distinct ideas about minority students. See, the school I was at was in inner-city Minneapolis. We did not have any white students in my class at all. I love to read, and I remember loving book orders when I was young, and I remember asking her if she did book orders. She didn't give me an answer like "No, I don't send out book orders because alot of my students are living in severe poverty, and I don't want their families to feel obligated." No...that's not the answer she gave me. After working nearly TWENTY years at this school, this is the answer I got "I don't do book orders because black people don't buy books." GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!

Now...I have first graders who can't keep still. If we're using manipulatives, there's lots of students who can't just leave them on the table where they belong. And I can handle some noise while I'm talking...no problem. But when I ask a student to please stop what they're doing, and they continue doing it, they lose the priviledge of using a pencil for a few minutes or using manipulatives until I'm done talking. If they use one of our classroom tools as toys, it gets taken away. I warn them first, but if they continue abusing the tools and disrespecting me, I think its okay to take those things away. After a few minutes, I ask them sincerely if they think they will be able to try to handle the manipulatives or pencil again, and usually, they're ready to go. They know they can say no. I love when my students manage themselves! They think to themselves "You know...I have a hard time standing by this person in line. We're supposed to be quiet in the hallway so we don't disturb other classrooms, and if I stand next to so-and-so, I can't do that. I need to move myself." They're getting there. I'm so proud of my kids!

If anything else, LL, you can make a long list of things that you DO NOT want to do in your classroom when you're a teacher. Also, farm yourself out to sane teachers. I'm committed to trying to observe other people's classrooms so I can be a better teacher. In an hour, or even a day if they'll let you...you can learn SO much from a master teacher.

Good luck! You'll be fine!



on Oct 06, 2004
That sounds awful. How is she allowed to continue teaching if she treats the kids this way?
on Oct 07, 2004
That sounds awful. How is she allowed to continue teaching if she treats the kids this way?


I don't know. Other people keep saying it is because she is tenured. Still though, you'd think one of these kids would go home and tell their parents some of this stuff and their parents would make some kind of an issue about it. I think she scares them into submission and gives them so much homework (which they have in the first place because they are scared to do anything in their spare time at school...either way they get yelled at) that they don't have any time to talk to their parents. That's not really true, but she does pile on the homework, especially fot the kids that are struggling.
on Oct 07, 2004

If she was teahing at one mf my kids schools I'd have raised a heck of a stink about her by now.  She sounds like a total fruit loop...kids have enough of those to deal with outside of school, they don't need one teaching and guiding them as well.

on Oct 07, 2004
-saying a student is special education when a student is reading a few grades behind because english is their second language


This student IS "special education." Just as students with developmental disabilities have special plans, ESL students are also often required to have modifications and special plans. "Special education" does not mean stupid. It means the student requires a "special" plan of teaching.

-grading unfinished standardized style tests that were untimed like they were finished and basing decisions about curriculum on the scores


This is the current way our government measures the effectiveness of teachers. Unfinished tests are not cut any slack. Think what you will about testing, but be aware of the reality. Using such tests as a curriculum setting tool can allow a teacher to assess weaknesses that might crop up on benchmark exams.

As for the rest, she sounds like a stricter discplinarian than I am in my own classroom, but I've always felt that classroom management was something you learned on the job -- observation doesn't prepare you to manage it.

In short, you remind me of a lot of student observers we've had over the years. Well-meaning, idealistic -- pretty much thinking that they know better how to run a classroom than an experienced teacher. I've found myself looking back to my observation days and realizing that things I thought of as being restrictive and over the top were really sound methods of classroom management. Your article amused me, though. Good luck!
on Oct 07, 2004
This student IS "special education."


I understand that this child will have areas where they weill need IEPs. I thought the way the teacher used the term special education in relation to the child was ridiculous. She said, 'She's special education' like that's all she is. The student does fine in math, but since she was with her ELL teacher during the initial assessment, she only got about 15 minutes to complete it. The rest of the class got over an hour. Then the tests were scored like the students were given the same amount of time. These scores are being used now to determine curriculum choices. Now the teacher is having one student that speaks English as a second language work on addition and subtraction problem while the rest of the class does multiplication, division, and factorization. The student never finishes her math sheets because she is with the ELL teacher so much. Since they are never finished, the teacher keeps placing her in the 7th percentile or so. So, its not that I disagree withthe testing because I know its quick and required and can be useful. She doesn't give students a fair shot at it based on that she thinks they can't do it.

I know it seems like I just think I could run it better than her, but that's not my point. I'm working on my masters degree now, so I have been in classrooms for a few years. I haven't been the only teacher in the room, running the class by myself, but with all the teachers I've team taught with in the past five years, I have never seen one as extreme as she is. That's all. She's just over the top. Cruel. Mean. Plus, her class isn't even well managed compared to the others I have worked in. The kids have no self-reliance and no initiative and no sense of community.

Thanks for the advice though! My article amuses me, too.
on Oct 07, 2004
yah, she doesn't sound very sensitive to student needs. I'm an ESL teacher myself, and you really wind up being a culture teacher as much as a language teacher...I re-read my post and I came off sounding a bit more critical than I meant to. But again, Good Luck!
on Oct 07, 2004
Wow, "leaping lizard", that teacher is really WACKED OUT. How DARE she display American flags in her classroom! How DARE she teach the students the pledge of allegiance! How DARE she send home reading assignments about the American government!
And on top of that, she is a REPUBLICAN! And she is EX-MILITARY! And she's also a CHRISTIAN? Say it ain't so! Oh, the HUMANITY!

YOU, my dear, are the PROBLEM, not the solution. You were obviously INDOCTRINATED at some left wing university where your professors taught you to HATE your country, LOATHE it's symbols, and treat organized religion like the plague. Sad, indeed.

Maybe I am old-fashioned, but I always thought that all Americans should be PROUD of our flag, PROUD of our brave military men and women, and PROUD of our country and it's history. I always thought that ENGLISH should be everybody's FIRST language if you expect to survive and prosper in the United States.

SHAME ON YOU for your socialist ideals and for your ridiculously biased view of MY country, the United States Of America. THANK GOD there are still people like this teacher you are being "forced" to work with, who are willing to display their pride and teach their students to be PROUD of the country they live in, the greatest country in the history of the world, the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

And SHAME ON YOU, "Marcie Helen", for referring to the American flag and "American flag paraphernalia" as "American crap".

If you two so-called "teachers" hate and loathe the USA so much, why don't you MOVE to France or Germany?

THANK GOD neither one of you teach MY children. I would yank them out of your classrooms so fast the breeze would mess up your boy John Kerry's hair!

You two so-called "teachers" should not be allowed to teach a DOG how to sit.

on Oct 07, 2004
Hey Patriot_Flamethrower - ...

Did you read this part of blog?

Compliant?? Since when is that an academic strength?

Other things she did that I saw that I couldn't believe:
-saying a student is special education when a student is reading a few grades behind because english is their second language
-grading unfinished standardized style tests that were untimed like they were finished and basing decisions about curriculum on the scores
-ignoring that three students said they can't see the board because they need glasses
-isolating a student at the back of the room for weeks
-using an accent when talking about latino/latina food and culture
-saying to me personally that the US could win the war by dropping pork over iraq to feed the people so they would starve to death
-for questions more than one answer, accepting answers from students she likes and telling students that she doesn't like they're answers are wrong
(example: telling one child she doesn't like that magic isn't involved in fantasy stories,the same girl that she told me has nothing in her head)
-telling a student if he doesn't stop twirling his hair (because it annoys her) that she would tell his dad to shave his head
-telling a student that if he didn't stop fiddling his pencil that she would duct tape his hands to the floor
-kids cannot use the bathroom, get a drink, or sharpen pencils unless the class is on break (2 times daily + lunch)
(this means if their pencil breaks, they can't do any more work. Then she yells at them for not having it done.)
-taking away a month of recess for one student who forgot to come inside to fininsh work at recess one day
-telling them they are never allowed to talk without raising their hands, then getting frustrated with them when no one chimes into group discussions
(they never know when she is asking a group question, or when she wants them to raise their hands)
-putting children in the corner for more that ten minutes at a time
(sometimes, she has all three corners full and multiplt people on the floor with clipboards)
-yelling at a student because they didn't know their father's phone number
(she doesn't even know the child's parents are divorced and the child lives with her mother and step-father, let alone what the situation is between
the childs mother and father after the divorce)
-upon finding out that one of her muslim students would not be allowed to enter a christain church sanctuary during a practice evacutaion, she
commented sarcastically to me that 'we wouldn't want her to turn into a frog or anything'


That is real reason of the complaint. That does sound awful. Hopefully that teacher will be fired.
on Oct 07, 2004
XX -
Yeah, that part does sound terrible. The teacher seems to be in a very outdated mode of thinking that doesn't really fit with the needs of current schools and teaching styles.
However, LeapingLizard did start it all off with simply describing a one-sided politically partisan classroom. While that's not really the ideal teaching environment for young children (despite my political and personal leanings, I feel it is important for young people to make their own, informed personal decisions), it is completely secondary to the actual complaints. Perhaps LL should have either de-emphasized these faults, made mention that it really only rankled them due to their own personal bias, or listed those complaints off-handedly at the end of the article, shopping-list fashion.
LL -
I feel for you and more so for the kids in that class. I hope that the teacher may (somehow) become more culturally and socially aware of the children in her care each day. Good luck trying to find a balance there for them. (And, remember, you can also use this as a learning tool for yourself: look at all the things she does that you don't like, and vow never to do those (or comparable) things while you teach.)
on Oct 07, 2004
Patriot,

Aren't you late for your KKK meeting or some other close-minded group I'm sure you must belong to?
on Oct 07, 2004
PF,
I didn't mean to strike such a nerve with you. I love this country. My political view aren't really important, but they are more left than yours, I'd guess, and they weren't through any indoctrination, but instead through a lot of reading. I don't loathe this country's symbols. Every country deserves a representaion in a classroom though. (PS: your point would have been better taken without the personal attacks) The reason I'm so upset with her is that she doesn't value culture and the way she expresses this is through stocking her room with American flags and army stickers. She also makes a 15 minute activity of saying the pledge. The kids actually say it twice, to music, with an interlude. They get in trouble if they don't stand up straight enough.

"How DARE she send home reading assignments about the American government!"
The assignments that she sent home on the government were overboard. I'm not against learning about the government. They had no relation to anything else she was doing though. They were totally random and the kids were whatdoing I call vomiting answers. The kids weren't thinking about anything, they were just pulling words from the paragraph at the top of the page to answer questions at the bottom. They did this for page after page after page. [

"How DARE she teach the students the pledge of allegiance!"
She doesn't just teach the pledge. She focused on the pledge for over a week, specifically, without talking about what pledges mean in general. They did worksheet after worksheet on the pledge. They made American flags. They were quizzed. Again, what bothers me is that they weren't thinking at all, they were just vomiting up definitions that they didn't understand because they couldn't put them in their own words. What good is it to just memorize the pledge and the definitions of the words? They still haven't personalized what this means to them or their families. What about the pledges of their countries of birth? Erasing these students multicultural background and replacing them with American ones has been proven to be detremental to these students, and so later, to our own country.

"And on top of that, she is a REPUBLICAN! And she is EX-MILITARY! And she's also a CHRISTIAN? Say it ain't so! Oh, the HUMANITY!"
I don't care about her politics, her background, or her religion. That's the point, I don't care. She shouldn't be bringing that into the classroom. There are Jewish and Muslim student in the classroom that shouldn't be made to sing Christain songs, or even be put in the position of feelin pressure to. I don't bring my politics or religion in there, and neither do other teachers. She doesn't have a right to. She can bring politics in or religion in, but not her own.

"If you two so-called "teachers" hate and loathe the USA so much, why don't you MOVE to France or Germany?"
It would be an positive and enriching experience for us all to live (or even visit) abroad for a while. It makes people re-examine their perspectives.

"THANK GOD neither one of you teach MY children. I would yank them out of your classrooms so fast the breeze would mess up your boy John Kerry's hair!"
If I taught your child, you wouldn't know all the things that you are gathering from my blog. This is my blog. It's personal. In the classroom, I don't bring in personal politics or religion. My job is to get children to think of things from multiple perspectives, critically, and express their thoughts in a way that other people can understand, and in a way that conveys that they really mean.

"THANK GOD there are still people like this teacher you are being "forced" to work with, who are willing to display their pride and teach their students to be PROUD of the country they live in, the greatest country in the history of the world, the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA."
This country has become the most powerful country at the expense of the majority of the rest of the world. We re not the best country. A lot of the things that make this country great were adopted from other countries, as well.

"SHAME ON YOU for your socialist ideals and for your ridiculously biased view of MY country, the United States Of America"
Don't be so selfish!
on Oct 07, 2004
(PS: your point would have been better taken without the personal attacks)


For a second, I thought you were talking to me, here. It's that "abbreviate the names into nice, easy, two-letter initials" trap...

Very tolerant and well-thought-out rebuttal, LL.
on Oct 08, 2004
PS Oh, oops. Sorry about that!
on Oct 10, 2004
Patriot~

I'll have you know that I have America written all over my classroom. Flags, maps, and we just finished a study on the Pledge of Allegiance...in first grade words.

I'll also have you know that I am Christian (went to church today...yay me!), and usually a straight-ticket Republican.

There's a difference between LL's cooperating teacher's motives and my motives about teaching about the United States. LL's cooperating teacher is pretty much going to breed terrorists in her classroom, which is a shame. I'm trying to help my students understand all that the United States has to offer, its beauty, its government, its freedom. It's hard for a first grader to understand...but while I want them to appreciate the USA...I can't FORCE them.
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